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User(land) Relations.
After I was publicly accused of shipping 'pirate-ware" by Dave Winer of Userland Software, I said I would publish the emails from and to Userland which had anything to do with this issue. This page is the result.
August Exchange with Robert Biermann
Dave Winer labels me a "Pirate"
Today, 01/11/26 during an idle moment, I was asking myself why Userland was so keen to stop me publishing my art, when it occurred to me that perhaps they thought the purpose of manilaFixer was to patch Manila! In fact, manilafixer patches individual web sites, as do many other 3rd party plugins such as metadata and esotericSettings. I even have an email from Brent Simmons dated Feburary 6 2000 that states
" Actually, you can just modify the Manila site itself. Changes to a Manila site won't get over-ridden. It's okay to customize the site to work the way you want. "
That's the understanding that even the fanciest of my Manila plugins have always worked within. If Userland thought otherwise, it sure would explain a lot. Since I now seem unable to post to at least oen fo the lists, I guess my surmise will stay just that.
OTOH Userland could always just have taken a look for themselves, bayly.root is public domain after all.
--Jim Byrne(jim at glasgowwestend dot co dot uk) from Scotland on 2001.11.27; 0:55:26 Uhr [permalink]
As my name pops up in the preceding exchange - thought I'd better respond to the allegation that
"these guys don't take breakage very seriously, so if you install their software you're on your own.
Dave"
I have been using Frontier since 1996 and released a few (free) frontier based cgi's including, EditIT, Autonews, and CommentIt from 1998 on. (The scripts included and benefitted from the contributions of many talented people from the Frontier community).
Frontier is a great application and I still use it. I was particularly happy when I was able to link up with David Bayly to release a plugin version of CommentIt for Manila - it's nice to see your programs live on as the technology changes. I thank David for that because he was the man with the code and the skills to make it work.
Any time a problem with one of my scripts was reported to me directly or appeared as a request on a mailing list I responded promptly. I always took breakage seriously - why wouldn't I? I was happy to support people who used programs I had a hand in writing.
Jim Byrne is innocent! :-)