Dave takes pity on me

From: Dave Winer <dave@userland.com>
To: "David A. Bayly" <dbayly@udena.ch>
Subject: Re: Re Winerlog
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:39:17 -0800
X-Priority: 3

I have no idea why you do what you do. But I've seen you in action over a few years. You're the first to throw the bricks. And you do it in a sneaky cowardly way. You didn't cover your tracks, so you're out of the closet. You can't get back in once you're out. ;>

Anyway -- I was surprised to see your picture. I imagined you to be a brilliant but insecure 20-something, anxious to prove his place by hurting someone else. What a surprise to find out that you're in your 50's maybe even 60's -- a person who by now should have enough wisdom to know that sometimes you're wrong.

Changed my whole idea of who you are. I feel very sorry for you David, whoever hurt you when you were younger must have really done a number on you to make you so inhuman, so bitter, so pointlessly angry.

Dave



----- Original Message --


From: "David A. Bayly" <dbayly@udena.ch>
To: Dave Winer <dave@userland.com>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Re Winerlog



> Dave,
>
> I have no idea what you are talking about, send me a a url if you
> have something to show.
>
> But think about it. I have my own website , it has my opinion of
> your dealings with me on record and they aren't exactly
> complimentary. Why would I need to play games with a parody website?
> And then post messages about its demise  on script mediran list under
> my own -constant-for-the-last-five-years email address.   Give me a
> break. When I write a satire of you it will be a lot funnier than
> winerlog has even been, at least since the founder gave up on it.
>
>
>
> >David, I read the archives of the Zaphod list before it was shuttered.
You
> >didn't cover your tracks very well, if at all. Dave
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message --


> >From: "David A. Bayly" <dbayly@udena.ch>
> >To: Dave Winer <dave@userland.com>
> >Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:06 AM
> >Subject: Re: Re Winerlog
> >
> >
> >>  Dave,
> >>
> >>  You lost me. For one, I have nothing to do with winerlog and never
> >>  have had - except that I read it from time to time and I've been
> >>  happy to have my public utterances pointed at from the site. I'm not
> >>  shy about saying that I thought it had an important free speech
> >>  function by virtue of existing on edithipage.com , but that's it..
> >>  For two, my website has my credentials - even my picture, I know you
> >>  know about it because you have objected to some of its contents.
> >>
> >>  So if you think I'm part of some conspiracy, think again, I'm a
> >>  working stiff. and don't have the luxury of wasting time on such
> >>  activities When I do have something to say about you or Userland it
> >>  is  on the matter of support for the subscription licence I paid
> >>  serious money for.  There's plenty of that on record, both on and off
> >>  my site.
> >>
> >>  As I told you last time you emailed with me, all correspondence from
> >>  Userland officers to me  was liable to be posted on my website. Look
> >>  for this exchange there soon.
> >>
> >>
> >>  >A suggestion if you want to participate in a discussion of integrity.
> >>  >
> >>  >1. Decloak. Say who you are. You can't possibly speak with any
integrity
> >if
> >>  >you don't use your real names, and tell readers something about
> >yourselves.
> >>  >
> >>  >Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>  --
> >>
> >>  - David Bayly.       Programmer and digest reader.     dbayly at udena
dot
> >ch
> >>    Digest Readers do it once a day.
>
>
> --
>
> - David Bayly.       Programmer and digest reader.     dbayly at udena dot
ch
>   Digest Readers do it once a day.